If this helps one inventor then it's worth it. We won't back down from threats.
In a normal situation, posting contracts or other information on blogs would NEVER happen, but this man is misrepresenting himself and hurting people who are looking for help.
Mark denies any of this ever happened. You be your own judge of that. Inventor helper or IP thief?
The lawyer, who filed the PPA has been reported to the disciplinary office of the USPTO, along with all proof they requested, has had his name removed from the documents, just in case it turns out he is also a victim. The patent attorney is also Mark's business partner.
*** Mark's partner/ patent attorney has reported to have cut all business ties with Obvious Ideas, Mark's company, and any interest in the product although we have found documents which suggest he's still part of Obvious Ideas LLC. We'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
#1 the agreement: Click to enlarge
Next. Here's the part of the PPA that matters:
Mark Reyland is NOT a co-inventor. He tried later to argue that because it was because he chose the width of the product and the packaging, which he should be embarrassed to even think of saying such a thing. Notice the date? Mark Reyland told the inventor the PPA was filed within that 60 days, when asked. This would have been good considering Mr. Reyland placed the inventor's invention in an open, online invention contest in May/June 2009.( the contest date updates to current year) http://cincinnatiinnovates.com/contest/entry/Ba'Noodles!
Public Disclosure claiming Patent Pending status without any protection applied for is illegal. Not only that, but disclosing it publicly with zero protection is reckless, just ask Roger Brown here- http://inventorspotforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4872 or see what Mark has to say about that kind of thing at the end of this post.
SKYPE conversation where the inventor asks to see the PPA
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[3/31/2010 8:20:00 AM] Tania Reynaert: Hey Mark- Is it possible to have a copy of the PPA on Ba'noodle, or provide me with the application number so I can get my own copy for my files please?
[3/31/2010 8:22:07 AM] Mark T. Reyland: I can check with Mark and see what he says...why?
[3/31/2010 8:22:55 AM] Tania Reynaert: well, I have a file for Ba'noodle, just like my other projects and with the ppa being in my name, I thought I could have a copy to add to that file
[3/31/2010 8:23:15 AM] Tania Reynaert: no big reason really
[3/31/2010 8:23:45 AM] Mark T. Reyland: I'll check for you and let you know, I have not seen it, only the file reciept
[3/31/2010 8:23:53 AM] Mark T. Reyland: but I'll check
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Here's the email Mark sent to his Patent att/ partner:
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In a message dated 4/1/2010 4:03:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mark@obviousideasllc.com writes:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Mark, can you send me a copy of the PPA you filed on Ba'noodles please – the inventor is asking for it.ThanksMark
Here's the response:
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From: Paxxx@xxx.com [mailto:Paxxxx@xxx.com]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:40 AM
To: mark@obviousideasllc.com
Subject: Re: Ba'Noodle
Mark:
Attached is a copy of the PPA. The serial No. is 61/xxx,xxx.
Mark
Mark claimed not to know anything about his name appearing on the PPA and emailed his patent att. partner again.
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From: "Mark Reyland" <mark@obviousideasllc.com>
Mark,
I printed this and noticed you listed me as an inventor. Is it possible to remove my name from the application?
Thanks
Mark
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Given the conversation leading up the discovery of Mark's name on the PPA, the inventor felt this was no mistake.
Here's the conversation via SKYPE, which followed. There are words highlighted which will be commented on below this discussion:
Here's the conversation via SKYPE, which followed. There are words highlighted which will be commented on below this discussion:
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[02/04/2010 12:44:57 PM] Mark T. Reyland: I talked to Mark and he said he put my name on teh patent app incase something went south in teh deal ....he is a lwayer ya know.....anyway - I said I didn;t care about that and asked him to remove my name from teh application.
[02/04/2010 12:45:34 PM] Tania Reynaert: crooks
[02/04/2010 12:45:46 PM] Mark T. Reyland: did you just call em a crook?
[02/04/2010 12:45:48 PM] Tania Reynaert: so he knowingly lied
[02/04/2010 12:46:10 PM] Mark T. Reyland: lied about what
[02/04/2010 12:46:38 PM] Tania Reynaert: he put your name in the inventor area knowing you were not the inventor
[02/04/2010 12:46:48 PM] Tania Reynaert: he even explained to you WHY he did it
[02/04/2010 12:47:33 PM] Mark T. Reyland: HE did it...not me....
[02/04/2010 12:47:43 PM] Mark T. Reyland: did you call me a crook?
[02/04/2010 12:48:14 PM] Tania Reynaert: you are the company MArk
[02/04/2010 12:50:45 PM] Mark T. Reyland: That's it - I have tried to be understanding - but I'm done. I'm not a crook and no one has ever called me that before. We have a contract that's it. If you want to sign the addendum the way it is fine, we will pay you 30% on what (re-license) pays us - if not it stays teh way it is in the license deal. The PPA stays teh way it is - end of story. You want to act like an emotional little inventor then I have to treat you like one.
[02/04/2010 12:52:43 PM] Mark T. Reyland: From this point on it's just business - we will send you a royalty check when (relicense) sends us one, if you want a report ask for it. Other than that I would caution you not to get into the middle of teh contracts between us and (re-license) - I can have Mark send you a letter to that effect if you like.
[02/04/2010 12:53:02 PM] Tania Reynaert: Please do
[02/04/2010 12:54:53 PM] Mark T. Reyland: I'm done playing these games with you Tania. Per our contract you have no rights to use teh Banoodle name or product without our consent. Please don;tr do anything to harm teh brand, or defame myself or Obvious Ideas - or we will take legal action against you.
[02/04/2010 12:55:32 PM] Mark T. Reyland: If you have any questions from this point on please refer them to Mark. and refrain from contacting me directly.
[02/04/2010 12:45:34 PM] Tania Reynaert: crooks
[02/04/2010 12:45:46 PM] Mark T. Reyland: did you just call em a crook?
[02/04/2010 12:45:48 PM] Tania Reynaert: so he knowingly lied
[02/04/2010 12:46:10 PM] Mark T. Reyland: lied about what
[02/04/2010 12:46:38 PM] Tania Reynaert: he put your name in the inventor area knowing you were not the inventor
[02/04/2010 12:46:48 PM] Tania Reynaert: he even explained to you WHY he did it
[02/04/2010 12:47:33 PM] Mark T. Reyland: HE did it...not me....
[02/04/2010 12:47:43 PM] Mark T. Reyland: did you call me a crook?
[02/04/2010 12:48:14 PM] Tania Reynaert: you are the company MArk
[02/04/2010 12:50:45 PM] Mark T. Reyland: That's it - I have tried to be understanding - but I'm done. I'm not a crook and no one has ever called me that before. We have a contract that's it. If you want to sign the addendum the way it is fine, we will pay you 30% on what (re-license) pays us - if not it stays teh way it is in the license deal. The PPA stays teh way it is - end of story. You want to act like an emotional little inventor then I have to treat you like one.
[02/04/2010 12:52:43 PM] Mark T. Reyland: From this point on it's just business - we will send you a royalty check when (relicense) sends us one, if you want a report ask for it. Other than that I would caution you not to get into the middle of teh contracts between us and (re-license) - I can have Mark send you a letter to that effect if you like.
[02/04/2010 12:53:02 PM] Tania Reynaert: Please do
[02/04/2010 12:54:53 PM] Mark T. Reyland: I'm done playing these games with you Tania. Per our contract you have no rights to use teh Banoodle name or product without our consent. Please don;tr do anything to harm teh brand, or defame myself or Obvious Ideas - or we will take legal action against you.
[02/04/2010 12:55:32 PM] Mark T. Reyland: If you have any questions from this point on please refer them to Mark. and refrain from contacting me directly.
[02/04/2010 1:00:53 PM] Tania Reynaert: MArk...are you kidding me?
[02/04/2010 1:01:18 PM] Tania Reynaert: you sent me a legal document with your name on it. tell me your partner did it without your knowledge
[02/04/2010 1:01:25 PM] Tania Reynaert: then say he did it to protect you
[02/04/2010 1:01:31 PM] Tania Reynaert: then say it means nothng!
[02/04/2010 1:01:58 PM] Tania Reynaert: you were my mentor and I trusted you to protect me...you did not
[02/04/2010 1:02:18 PM] Mark T. Reyland: Litsen if you have a business question or a legal question please email Mark - I'm not letting you drag me into this childish game.
[02/04/2010 1:03:45 PM] Mark T. Reyland: You are not this stupid - the doicument will never award - it's just an application - Mark wrote it and filed it, I saw it for teh first time 5 min before you did...I asked him why he did it and he told me....that's alll, Elvis is still dead and JFK was not shot with a magic bullet
[02/04/2010 1:03:52 PM] Mark T. Reyland: stop already.....
[02/04/2010 1:05:45 PM] Mark T. Reyland: The only reason I had him file it in the first place was because I thought you would like having it....that's it...his time and 100 bucks....for your walll....we knew from teh start it was worthless....do you really think having my name on it matters????really?????
Here's a screen shot we asked for. Some were having trouble believing Mark has such spelling issues...
[02/04/2010 1:01:18 PM] Tania Reynaert: you sent me a legal document with your name on it. tell me your partner did it without your knowledge
[02/04/2010 1:01:25 PM] Tania Reynaert: then say he did it to protect you
[02/04/2010 1:01:31 PM] Tania Reynaert: then say it means nothng!
[02/04/2010 1:01:58 PM] Tania Reynaert: you were my mentor and I trusted you to protect me...you did not
[02/04/2010 1:02:18 PM] Mark T. Reyland: Litsen if you have a business question or a legal question please email Mark - I'm not letting you drag me into this childish game.
[02/04/2010 1:03:45 PM] Mark T. Reyland: You are not this stupid - the doicument will never award - it's just an application - Mark wrote it and filed it, I saw it for teh first time 5 min before you did...I asked him why he did it and he told me....that's alll, Elvis is still dead and JFK was not shot with a magic bullet
[02/04/2010 1:03:52 PM] Mark T. Reyland: stop already.....
[02/04/2010 1:05:45 PM] Mark T. Reyland: The only reason I had him file it in the first place was because I thought you would like having it....that's it...his time and 100 bucks....for your walll....we knew from teh start it was worthless....do you really think having my name on it matters????really?????
Here's a screen shot we asked for. Some were having trouble believing Mark has such spelling issues...
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At the end of this entry you'll see a post written by Mark on a public forum demanding the inventor was told many times why he was added to the PPA, yet in the above Skype message, he just found out about it all himself.The letter Mark threatened with was requested but never received but after notifying Mark's legal partner, the inventor received this.
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From: XXXX@aol.com <XXXX@aol.com>
Subject:
To: taniareynaert@yahoo.com, marks@XXXX.com
Cc: XXXX@earthlink.net
Received: Monday, November 15, 2010, 9:44 PM
Dear Ms. Reynaert:
I am sorry Mr. Reyland had you contact me. I am no longer a member of Obvious Ideas and no longer involved in the Ba'Noodles in any way. I suggest that you send all further Emails to him.
Very truly yours,
lawyer/ partners name removed
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The addendum was signed but never counter-signed. The inventor put in thousands of dollars of their own money to help bring the product to market as well as hundreds of hours. The 30% was never asked for, but offered by Mark and the inventor accepted.
Mark had also asked the inventor if she would go out on her own or continue with him on future inventions. He even offered to bypass his partners. Once he was told she would be going forward on her own this was the reply to the signed addendum.
[04/04/2010 7:59:07 AM] Mark T. Reyland: I will send it over to my partners and see where we are in terms of your latest developments - I'll let you know sometime this week.
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Here's the forum post which doesn't fit the email asking to be removed from the application. The following link has since been deleted from Edison Nation, but we have all the good stuff filed away:
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Mark Reyland
markreyland | I’ll go one better Roger – I had an inventor file a grievance with the USPTO on a patent attorney friend of mine because they simply didn’t understand the patent law and the reasons he filed what he filed on their behalf.
I’ve know this man for many years, and he is a good honest and upright guy – there is no way he would have ever filed something that was not in the best interest of the inventor – and in fact, he didn’t. He was trying to protect their rights and they were trying to protect their ego. No matter how many times they were told and even shown the patent law, they refused to believe it and their emotion (and likely that of some misguided advisers) got them all fired up and they went off the deep end.
What they didn’t take the time to think about is that in addition to the black mark on his professional record for the rest of his career, he could be disbarred for not notifying them in writing. Although he told them (and they fully agree they were told) the law requires that it be sent in writing and he simply forgot. And yes, in some cases that simple mistake can get an attorney disbarred.
This is a classic example of an inventor thinking they know what they are talking about when they really don’t. Emotion drove them to do anything it took to try and prove themselves right, even if the result is someone looses their livelihood and his ability to support his family.
For many inventors this is a hobby, it’s a dream they work on part time. But for the professionals they have to deal with it’s how we feed our families – when you can lose your job, your house, or your family because you tried to help an unstable inventor who all of a sudden goes rouge – that’s a pretty scary thing.
I can tell you these situations make all of us think twice about helping any inventor because you just don’t know how they will act or react to something they don’t understand.
Mark
We're not sure what the highlighted part means given we're unable to find any of Mark's products in retail and with him spending countless hours helping inventors for free. What we are sure of is that these inventors who he approaches are hoping to feed THEIR families with their inventions. In our opinion, Mark Reyland is not an inventor of any sort. Making money from stealing inventors' IP is shameful and stealing hope from people is criminal. Has anyone even researched his Biography and resume?? He was known to tell people that nobody ever does. I guess this is the one thing he was right about. |
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